Aless Benetek
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.12 19:53:00 -
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I will preceed this by saying I LOVE MMO PVP, Open World, Death Penalties, etc. are my preference..and I love being a ganker, so I am not a care bear..but EvE PVP has stymied me. Also, the Corp I am in is one of EVE's best newb PVP training corps (very structured pilot/pvp training process) who regularly declare war so that we have plenty of war targets/pvp opportunities, even so I think EvE PVP is less than it could be....
1. Lack of Knowledge
2. Not sure where to begin
3. Ship fitting for PVP is a pain (takes too long, researching interweb for fits, flying all over to get best price, etc. - someone could make bucko ISK selling packages of 5, 10, 20, etc. pvp frigates)
4. Lack of experience and confidence - give me an MMO like Battle Ground and I will play for hours, learn leet PVP skills, and be an in your face pirate, ganker in the real game in no time...
5. Lack of accessibility - yeah folks say it's easy, drop cans in Jita for 1v1, join Red v Blue, buy 20 Rifters and just do it, etc. but...
6. Speed of access - sheeze, read the Rifter Plan or Punisher Plan blogs, the supposed "ideal" newb entry process into PVP and both directly and indirectly (between the lines), training tech II skills (he realized he needt TII auto cannons to have a chance) finding and/or tracking PVP opponents is a looooong process if you want to have any chance of surviving/learning/winning from the experience
7. PvP is complicated! - Read Rifter and Punisher Plans, from the perspective of a newish player mind you, and it doesnt even scratch the surface of PVP in Eve! and that is the "condensed" version that highlights the minute or two of excitement that happened after hours, days, weeks of skilling, stalking, waiting, etc.
7. Test Server "Battle Ground" with it's no-loss option, despite what peeps say, is not casual friendly, easy to jump into/out option, and useless to all but the experienced few. Who wants to spend weeks (months?) in the test server doing a "Rifter" plan and getting good at PVP (now if they gave me one button in-game access, provided incentives (rank, clothing, etc.), provided some structure (faction warfareish maybe), I would play the test server, etc. till my eyes bleed, ala most MMO battlegrounds)
8. Not casual player friendly
9. RvP Option for me was a blob fest - the most exciting part was the build up, FC leading us around, etc. - the actual engagement, blob vs blob was a confusing mess, and lasted like 30 secs when I was blown apart from 30-40KM, never really got up close and personal, to even see more than flashy red dots in my overview. I was left thinking - sheeze what just happened, PvP in EvE is anti-climactic.
IMHO, alot of older EvE players have other games on (DayZ, World of Tanks, Minecraft, etc.) that they play, while on vent, waiting for something to happen worth jumping back into EvE (Hey, there's a war target in system....nevermind, he left....).
Now I know it would violate the sandbox, lore and purity of EvE (like that never happens), but give me an in-game/station "Combat SImulator/Holodeck", with instant PVP access/gratification, ie. just steal WOT, make spaceships stead of tanks, and put in EvE..) and ALL players would become experienced, knowledgeable, agressive PVPers in the real EvE world in no time (I know the tactics, each country's tank types, where to hit, etc. in just a few weeks playing WoT), but i have played EvE for several months and I can't tell you what ships the Amar have, what their holes are, when to run, when to fight, etc.).
Anyway, back to playing WoT until someone in Eve Vent says we have a roam going or there is an afk miner to gank. |